Meow, Hiss, Huff I Think I Hear A Cat Fight! Hillary doesn’t want to have to support McCain so she can run again in 2012…too much work; too much waiting and there is always the danger that folks will begin saying things like: “Lieberman and Hillary…”
Thought For Today…Give It The Big Click!
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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:39 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: Democrats, 2008
From NBC's Mike Viqueira
A Democratic source in Washington provides the following letter from a major Democratic donor as evidence that yesterday's "shakedown" letter to Speaker Pelosi is having an effect antithetical to its intention.
Leslie Walker Burlock of San Francisco writes yesterday to Nancy Pelosi pledging the max $28,000 to the DCCC. The Dem source says Ms. Burlock wrote after learning of the letter from the group of heavy hitters, a move that Burlock disagreed with.
I spoke with Ms. Burlock by phone. She says that yes, she agrees with Nancy Pelosi's stance on superdelegates, and that yes, she is an Obama supporter. But she demurred when asked several different ways whether or not her pledge comes as a rebuttal to the letter from the others. She didn't deny it, however.
P.S. - Ms. Burlock says she hasn't yet sent the dough.
The letter:
March 26, 2008
Dear Madame Speaker,
I have joined your "Speaker's Cabinet - Gold" for the 20008 Democratic National Convention because I want to be in the convention hall when Senator Barack Obama accepts our party's nomination to be the next president of the United States. I hope and trust that when the Super Delegates cast their votes at the convention they will represent the will of the voters as you have called for them to do. I am hopeful that with this election we will see a break from the quid pro quo endorsements that seem to dominate our political system and that with a new administration we will have a fresh start and be able to build coalitions that reach across party lines and political allegiances. I look forward to an administration that will be a "team of rivals" where the best minds are called to the table to work together to tackle the challenges that face our nation and the world.
Sincerely,
Leslie Walker Burlock
*** UPDATE *** MoveOn.org, which has endorsed Obama, has also weighed in with the following letter to supporters:
Dear MoveOn member,
This is pretty outrageous: a group of Clinton-supporting big Democratic donors are threatening to stop supporting Democrats in Congress because Nancy Pelosi said that the people, not the superdelegates, should decide the Presidential nomination.1
It's the worst kind of insider politics—billionaires bullying our elected leaders into ignoring the will of the voters.
But when we all pool our resources, together we're stronger than the fat cats. So let's tell Nancy Pelosi that if she keeps standing up for regular Americans, thousands of us will have her back. And we can more than match whatever the CEOs and billionaires refuse to contribute. Clicking here will add your name to our statement:
http://pol.moveon.org/democracy/
The statement reads: "The Democratic nomination should be decided by the voters—not by superdelegates or party high-rollers. We've given money—and time—to progressive candidates and causes, and we'll support Speaker Pelosi and others who stand up for Democracy in the Democratic Party."
We're launching it today with our friends at the blog OpenLeft.com. Our goal is to deliver tens of thousands of signatures to Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders later this week.
A few weeks ago, Speaker Pelosi told ABC News, "If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic Party."2
She's right, but Clinton's top fundraisers want her to back off. According to the New York Times, their letter "carries an ominous tone, which stops just short of delivering a threat. The donors remind Ms. Pelosi that they are 'strong supporters' of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee."3 Their language was careful, but their implied threat was universally understood. (Roll Call carried this headline: "Clinton donors threaten Pelosi and DCCC."4)
They're the old guard, and this is how the Democratic Party used to function—the big donors called the shots. But the small donor revolution has changed that. The 20 people who signed this letter have given Democrats an average of $2.4 million per year over the last 10 years.5 Small donations now dwarf that: In February alone, Obama and Clinton raised $47 million in small donations.6
Still, old habits die hard. We need to send a strong signal that we, the small donors, will back Democratic leaders who have the courage to stand up and do the right thing. Please sign our statement today.
http://pol.moveon.org/democracy/
Thanks for all you do,
–Noah, Justin, Ilyse, Wes, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Thursday, March 27th, 2008
Sources:
1. "Clinton Donors Warn on Superdelegate Fight," New York Times, March 27, 2008.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/politics/27dems.html
2. Ibid.
3. "Clinton donors ask Pelosi to Back Off," New York Times Caucus Blog, March 26, 2008.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3534&id=&t=240
4. "Clinton Donors Threaten Pelosi and DCCC," Roll Call, March 26, 2008.
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/22683-1.html
5. "Pelosi's hecklers gave $24 million," Politico, March 27, 2008.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3535&id=&t=242
6. "February Fundraising Frenzy for Presidential Candidates," Campaign Finance I
Hillary Clinton is playing for 2012 and she's willing to take down the Democratic Party and our country if she has to in order to get her way. If she can't have the nomination this year, then she will do everything in her power to make sure McCain defeats Obama so that she can run in 2012.
Will, CA (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:46 PM)
Hillary's brown shirts must be stopped! We need to wrest control of the party from the corupt backroom types that write nasty little arm-twisters whenever anyone threatens to rock their world with the suggestion of democracy.
Ian (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:47 PM)
Proof positive....HONESTY PAYS! I applaud Ms. Burlock for her enthusiasm and support of a new way of doing business in the U.S. I couldn't agree with her more and await the dawning of a new day for Americans.
Chris, Quincy IL (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:48 PM)
Go Leslie! But make sure you duck. The sniper fire in Bosnia was a fabrication but the incoming fire you're about the see on this blog and elsewhere will be all too real. Clinton supporters consider anybody who doesn't share their view as akin to the ingrates. Women who dare to think for themselves and support somebody other than the girl are particularly vulnerable to these slanderous attacks.
Another Californian Against yesterday's attempted shakedown of Pelosi (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:49 PM)
Hillary's negative attacks, and Obama's sound judgement on the issues that REAL Americans face are having an effect on my perception of Obama.
Maybe all of us Clinton supporters should realize that she can't win, and in order to bring this country out of the hole that Bush threw us in, unite as Democrats behind a strong leader such as Barack Obama.
patty,sd,ca (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:52 PM)
Want to bet that letter came from the 'Family'? Hillarys' church group, hell bent on making her the next pres. Seems they have a policy of never give up, never quit, and they ain't marines, ok? She's been in the church of power brokers since '93, and rather than picking at Obamas' affiliations, try looking at hers. Trust me, way dirtier than anything Obama ever got into.
tootired Ill (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:58 PM)
It's amazing what Sen. Clinton is willing to do to win at all costs...a scorched earth policy. If the tables were reversed and she had more pledged delegates, more states, and more popular votes, every political pundit in America would be calling for Obama to withdraw from the race; and the man that he is would be probably "do the right thing".
What chutzpa Hillary ? and I am one of your neighbors!
Marc
Chappaqua, NY
Marc Harris Chappaqua, Ny (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:01 PM)
The RULES state that the superdelegates get to vote based upon their own determination of who would be the best nominee, NOT that they should be bound by the popular vote, or any other criteria. If Obamians want to FOLLOW THE RULES, then they should FOLLOW THE RULES, and not attempt to change them at this point in the process. Again, the RULES give the superdelegates total freedom to vote their will.
Rob in NV (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:02 PM)
The Clinton writers have much more to lose, personally, from an Obama victory (a real shake-up in the power structure of the party) vs a McCain one (they will still be on top of the dem. pecking order and bide their time to get back)
Carthage (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:05 PM)
When you can't earn the votes, and you don't deserve the votes, there's always backroom deals and extortion. Thank you ever so much Hillary for reminding people why you will never be worthy of election or nomination. Please retire from politics, you are "insignificant".
Eric Cleveland, OH (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:08 PM)
to much Polls say one thing for 2 weeks Obama comes into town and only thing they couldnt change is 10% more clinton supporters will vote McCane rather than Obama. I have said I would leave if I was Obama listening to rants not true and against my country. Well I find same thing here. I read (it tells us) surely doesnt include Hillary people so I dont stay where not wanted.I have to shut down my grandchildren from this form of partisapation . They dont need to read the vile here . I will work hard in other ways to help Hillary and always be there to support her. She is a ton better than any of you or your Obama. I pray you find out in time.yes my spelling wont have to annoy any more.If this is a victory for you God Bless America
ep-ny (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:10 PM)
$28,000.00!!!!To say you agree with a lying liberal moron that broke congressional rules on electioneering?What happened to the Demoncratic Party?Did Martians invade when we weren't looking?I hate Hillary,Obama,McCain,Bush,Cheney and every other morally corrupt evil manifestation in D.C.!!!You profiteerig hucksters have sold EVERY AMERICAN citizen to the Saudis and Haliburton.America needs you Harry Truman!
docrock,tx (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:11 PM)
Men aren't against Hillary because she is a woman; people are against her because she is arrogant and obnoxious, because she has a warped sense of entitlement and is totally self-focused, without having any regard for the harm she causes as she does/says whatever she thinks will help her. She has been called a Monster, a Butch, a Bit__ but really those things aren’t meaningful and they just define whoever says them more than they do her. What is meaningful is what she constantly demonstrates. She is extremely aggressive without a conscience. She is strongly sociopathic. If you want to know what she would be like as president, then just look at GWBush, another belligerent sociopath. If we ignore all of this, then come November our choice may be between someone who has advocated they will stubbornly continue the Bush-Cheney policies and someone who has the same unconscionable, self-focused personality as GWBush.
REG in AZ (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:11 PM)
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Patty. I am shocked that the donors would try to rob the voters. I don't understand why Hillary would resort to such desperate acts just to win. After all, the presidency is a top job in the nation and a better resume should match that position.
I am glad First Read is doing a great job of reporting such outrageous happenings.
Bull the Dog (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:11 PM)
It would be great if people would unite with Obama and make this work. I'm tired of all the fighting. Most of us are at the point we would rather not vote.
twinoftwins (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:12 PM)
I knew this would blow up in Hillary's face. The absolute LAST THING any Democrat should do is try to shake down the Democratic Party if one of the themes in this change election is reducing the power of special interests.
Mister Anderson (The Matrix) (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:17 PM)
Wisdom is not the same as experience, it is a gift. Experience is a product of time.
How many times has an employer hired an experienced CEO for a company thats in full bloom, just to watch their numbers quickly wilt and the petals fall away? Wisdom is a fluid, but without experience it is as deceiving as water. More valuable for what it is, than what it is seen to be without. The best leadership has to be chosen with effort.
It is always unexpectedly found, and remorse goes to those who quickly chose the one jumping up and down for the position
Jeff, GR, MI (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:18 PM)
It must be a difficult position to be in. You've been ordering people around for years and now, you've got little power to wield over them.
Tired of being tired of this (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:18 PM)
You Obama-lovers are really paid for by the Obama campaign, as First read writes ("McGirt also writes the Obama campaign oversees the content posted on its Web site and responds to posts on other sites").
I will never take you seriously again!
HILLARY 08!!!
Martin (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:20 PM)
Our voices will NOT be silenced by fat cat insiders!
Obama 08!
Mary, Ohio (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:20 PM)
You Obama-lovers are really paid for by the Obama campaign, as First read writes ("McGirt also writes the Obama campaign oversees the content posted on its Web site and responds to posts on other sites").
I will never take you seriously again!
HILLARY 08!!!
Martin (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:21 PM)
This is America, belongs to all Americans. Obama will bring the country back to all the people as was intended by forefathers not to the deep pockets (rich) individuals that support Mrs HR Clinton.
SPB Benton City Washington (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:21 PM)
That's right, step-up and back 'em off Ms. Burlock. When people put up their cash, you know they believe. That explains why Hillary is broke. Do her supporters really believe? Obviously not.
Barack, however, is doing very nicely with lots of happy little contributions, floating his way on a hopeful note of change. Join us. You'll feel so much better. You CAN be on a winning team. We welcome you.
Pulling for Obama '08
donna, pgh., pa. (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:23 PM)
Fellow Dems:
There's been A LOT of hate spewed out from both sides. KNOCK IT OFF, CHILDREN!!! Hillary supporters, know that Hill's and Obama's positions are almost identical. Obama supporters, if Obama is supposed to be above the political infighting, isn't it hypocritical to support him and name-call other democrats and candidates, or do you think he can't fight his own battles.
Both candidates are good, the race is close, and KNOCK IT OFF.
Chuck, South Bend, IN (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:23 PM)
If the Clintons really wanted the Dems to succeed she would have gotten out long ago. They dont they are in this thing for themselfs no matter who it hurts and that is the real sad story of all. I think a woman can be president just not that woman.
David Chicago, Il (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:23 PM)
The Democratic party no longer needs be indebted to the DLC fatcats. We are becoming once again the party of the people. The way true progressives have supported Obama they will support Pelosi. Hillary talks a good game but she is not now nor has she ever been a progressive. She served on board of directors of Wal-Mart for six years, while her husband was governor of state where Wal_mart is headquartered. She sat in on mettings where union busting tactics were discussed. She and her husband continue to profit from Wal-Mart connections. Her husband's foundation received a $500,000 donation from them just this year. By the way, Mark Penn, her chief strategist, represents Countrywide along with his union busting activities. And as we know through james carville, we know how the Clinton's are about loyalty.
Steve Clements, Springfield, MO (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:25 PM)
patty, sd, ca - am i really seeing that you just wrote? if it's real, then i tip my hat off to you! not because i am an obama supporter, but because you finally see how the party is crumbling because of the very prejudicial partisan, take-no-prisoner, vehement scorch-earth method of most of clinton supporters. we do not need this in times of crisis. the whole nation is in crisis; our economy is crumbling, value of our dollar is dwindling, the wars on both ends of the world.
again, my hat's off to you!
truth be told (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:29 PM)
The democratic party belongs to we the people not just to the Clinton big bucks. I is unfortunate one can not expell those who pull crap like this and the Clintons and their campaign for trying it. Same old politics. I beleive thios is the type of thing Obama wants to change.
james martin California (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:30 PM)
Senator Clinton appears intent on destroying the chances of Senator Obama to win the General Election if she isn't the nominee. If Senator Obama were to be elected in November it would be highly unlikely that she would mount a challenge to the incumbent President and by the time 2016 rolls around there would be questions of her age at that time (she'd be 69 years old at the time of her election if she were running in 2016).
Besides, what better way to strong-arm your way to the nomination in 2012 by scuttling the candidacy of Senator Obama in 2008 and then showing up 4 years from now crowing, "See, I *TOLD YOU* you should have given me the nomination!"
Pete - Albany, NY (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:31 PM)
When Hillary is finished throwing the 'kitchen sink' at the public, her opposing candidates and her peers in the Democratic Party, Hillary will never win another election in these United States of America.
shirley, san jose, ca (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:32 PM)
This should tell everyone who owns the Clinton campaign and who will own a Clinton White House.
Time to take America back.
nadeem (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:33 PM)
Does anyone who uses this blog know how to write using proper English? If I was a teacher, I would print up these posts and distribute them to my students as examples of what not to do when writing. We really do need education reform and fast.
Anybody But Clinton (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:34 PM)
So let me get this straight: Clinton wants ALL of our voices heard (or votes.. if you will) even if it means dragging this out for another 3 months... AND Clinton ALL of our voices heard so she pushes for the MI and FL delegates... AND (this is my favorite) Clinton want the superdelegates to IGNORE our voices now.
So at what point will this whole media/politcal/fighing become worth it???
James, Gaithersburg, MD (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:34 PM)
Domenico, a little note I just discovered
This is from the Library of Congress... - but it can also be found in "Dictionary of Politics" ---
The purpose of the "Hunt Commission" formed in 1980 -which created today's superdelegate system...was and I quote,
"to streamline the delegate selection process to party conventions and to DEMOCRATIZE the party itself, broadening the base of political participation by increasing input into the process of selecting presidential candidates, to strengthen ACCOUNTABILITY of public officials and strengthen the party itself whose base was weakened by the vigorous activities of the the Republican Party."
Speaker Pelosi's situation is entirely correct... the purpose of changes made to the selection process including superdelegates were in the direct goal of "democratizing the party" and holding public officials "Accountable" (and it references "to the members of the party" later in the section)to the party and therefore it's members/voters.
so legally I think this is almost done.
Dave Exeter (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:37 PM)
Thanks Daddy Chuck in Indiana but you betrayed yourself at the end. This race is close in Hillary's mind, Bill's mind, your mind, Geraldine Ferraro's mind, and the minds of mainstream media producers who want to keep this going because it's great for ratings. Everyone else who can see clearly and who doesn't have a stake in the results sees that this is already a blowout.
Reality check (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:38 PM)
The letter from the Clinton rich supporters should be an eye-opener to all Clinton followers. They are now threatening the democratic leader of United States Congress just because Clinton wants to win.
This is an outrage and every American should be concerned with such a move.
End Game (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:44 PM)
Nancy Pelosi needs to shut up. The Democratic Party is being hijacked by the Obama activists. Hillary's supporters would vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.
Chicago, IL (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:45 PM)
The PA electorate no longer has to wrestle with their conscience about voting for Hillary. These fine upstanding contributors will buy the nomination for her, regardless of the desires of any Democrat party individual. This is unbelievable. And, if any of these people are clients of Mark Penn, this is just like a 2 for 1 sale. They buy McCain for the same purchase.
MBM Chicago, IL (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:45 PM)
Nancy Pelosi needs to shut up. The Democratic Party is being hijacked by the Obama activists. Hillary's supporters would vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.
Chicago, IL (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:47 PM)
If the Democratic Party were smart enough to award delegates on a "winner take all" basis, exactly as is done in the general election (with electoral votes) and in the Republican Party, then Clinton would now be the nominee, just as John McCain is. This nonsense about Obama winning states like South Carolina is absurd!!! He is NOT going to carry such DARK RED states in November, and awarding him the nomination thinking he will is a pipe dream. Stop fantasizing, folks, and wake up.
The Republicans are going to crucify him for having said nothing during 20 years of anti-American sermons by his pastor. It may mean nothing to a lot of us, but the GOP is going to destroy him on this issue alone.
As a Party, we'd be suicidal to nominate him. But we probably will, because we're very good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Rob in NV (Sent Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:49 PM)
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